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	<title>Comments on: Ceres, goddess of excursions ..</title>
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		<title>By: michael chalk</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael chalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 08:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Leigh, great to hear from you. 

i don&#039;t know how you&#039;d find the land required for an initiative like Ceres these days. Surely wouldn&#039;t happen here if it wasn&#039;t already in place. 

Yes, once brunswick is fully gentrified, and sustainability mainstreamed .. we&#039;ll all come and join you in Dunedin. 

(How cold does it get over there?)
kind regards, michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Leigh, great to hear from you. </p>
<p>i don&#8217;t know how you&#8217;d find the land required for an initiative like Ceres these days. Surely wouldn&#8217;t happen here if it wasn&#8217;t already in place. </p>
<p>Yes, once brunswick is fully gentrified, and sustainability mainstreamed .. we&#8217;ll all come and join you in Dunedin. </p>
<p>(How cold does it get over there?)<br />
kind regards, michael</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh Blackall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leigh Blackall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mike. I&#039;d really like that vein of Melbourne culture to wash over here a bit. There are elements here already. We have interesting boutique shops, lots of stenciling and some local markets. But I&#039;ve so far failed to inspire my organisation to refer CERES and other Melbourne initiatives. They are aware of them, but for some reason it doesn&#039;t seem to strike a chord with key people leading our effort here. They seem driven by a need for point of difference or something. Anyway, the point is I think that subculture you are talking about is probably the most recognised Melbourne trait. The mainstreaming of it is its peak I guess. It will be interesting to see what Melb does with it. Meanwhile, the inevitable gentrification that will come with the mainstreaming will hopefully push the doers out of Melb and over here to Dunedin :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike. I&#8217;d really like that vein of Melbourne culture to wash over here a bit. There are elements here already. We have interesting boutique shops, lots of stenciling and some local markets. But I&#8217;ve so far failed to inspire my organisation to refer CERES and other Melbourne initiatives. They are aware of them, but for some reason it doesn&#8217;t seem to strike a chord with key people leading our effort here. They seem driven by a need for point of difference or something. Anyway, the point is I think that subculture you are talking about is probably the most recognised Melbourne trait. The mainstreaming of it is its peak I guess. It will be interesting to see what Melb does with it. Meanwhile, the inevitable gentrification that will come with the mainstreaming will hopefully push the doers out of Melb and over here to Dunedin <img src='http://michalk.id.au/txt/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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